Boots denies pressuring employees into accepting lower pay

Practice Boots has dismissed claims by the PDA Union that it is intimidating employees into accepting last year's premium rate cuts, which were ruled unlawful...
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S Jones, Other healthcare professional
Posted on 12 June 2012.
all i can say is that it seems that employers have no respect for the employees!
its just disgusting behaviour!!! to be frank!!
care in the community !! LOL oh yh we dont understand the meaning of that no more!!
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Clive Hodgson, Community pharmacist
Posted on 12/06/12 14:52 in reply to S Jones.
I considered that the recent reporting of Mr Olinari (customer survey case) to the GPhC by Boots to be a rather “nasty and vindictive” act.

I would consider this targeting of pharmacists who are simply standing up for their contractual rights also to be “nasty and vindictive”.

Is this the new face of Boots?
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K S, Industrial pharmacist
Posted on 13 June 2012.
This doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Gerry Diamond, Other pharmacist
Posted on 12 June 2012.
I disagree, Boots are a very professional organisation and that they do care about staff and their pharmacist employees. Boots are a decent employer and most employees consider their employee package as competitive, CPD opportunities as good and opportunity for promotion is excellent
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Clive Hodgson, Community pharmacist
Posted on 12/06/12 18:21 in reply to Gerry Diamond.
Gerry,

I would not disagree with your opinion of Boots to be a professional organisation BUT……..

I strongly suspect that this sort of intimidation is just one tactic that will be employed by some multiples in an increasingly aggressive attack on employee pharmacists pay and conditions over the coming few years.

The oversupply of pharmacy graduates will guarantee, in the near future, that there will be pharmacists desperate enough to work for pay and conditions that would not be even considered today. The multiples know this.
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Mark McDaniel, Non healthcare professional
Posted on 12 June 2012.
My wife has had 27 years unbroken and loyal service and is one of the 49 who resisted this and went through the tribunal process that was ruled as unlawfull by a court judge. Laura was advised last week that she has been served 4 weeks notice of termination of her existing contract and received a letter inviting her to a meeting that specifies what the outcome of the meeting will be even before the meeting has taken place. Boots are bullies and give no regard to the long serving members of staff that have helped build the company up to what it is today. They think it is OK to just slash the wages of these staff by 25% and now they have been judged as doing this unlawfully by a court judge, they are just going to terminate contracts and hers will end on July 08th. All under the mask of No 1 Customer Care. Who are they kidding. The fact is that they are singling out and discriminating against 1 section of their workforce who have contractual terms that specify they are entitled to double time pay for Sunday working.


They have announced multimillion profits and also transferred their banking to an offshore account to avoid paying business taxes costing the british taxpayer millions. This is disgraceful.

If the managers at Boots were given a letter advising them that in 4 weeks time they will have their contacts terminated and offered a new contract that would pay them 25% less pay, i am sure they would accept this. NOT !!!
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Tim B, Locum pharmacist
Posted on 12/06/12 18:29 in reply to Clive Hodgson.
Salaries and locum rates have a lot further to decrease yet!
When all has caught up and nobody considers pharmacy to be a good career anymore, the multiples will have reaped their due reward and should disappear into oblivion.
And the public will have the service it so richly deserves.

Its about time that pharmacists refused to work under NHS terms and dictats.
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Clive Hodgson, Community pharmacist
Posted on 12/06/12 18:31 in reply to Gerry Diamond.
Gerry,

Forgot to ask....have you got that job in the PR department of Boots yet? ;-).
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Mark McDaniel, Non healthcare professional
Posted on 12/06/12 18:44 in reply to Gerry Diamond.
Gerry, i think you are missing the point here. The employees have contractual terms in place. Boots are just terminating these and issuing new contracts that will affect the take home pay by 25%.

I am assuming by your comments that you are not affected by this change, so ill ask you a question ...

If you went into work and your manager gave you a letter notifying you that your current contract would be terminated in 4 weeks time and you would be offered a new contract that meant you would lose 25% of your take home pay each month, would you still say that "boots are a decent employer" and would you accept this change and sign upto these new terms ????
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Chad Harris, Community pharmacist
Posted on 12/06/12 21:02 in reply to Mark McDaniel.
linkedin says Gerry Diamond is a PCT pharmacist. (if it's the same one??) So Mark you may see Mr Diamond having exactly the same thing happen to him when the CCGs take over. But as Clive says.... a job at BTC HO awaits?!
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Pharmacist For Fairness, Community pharmacist
Posted on 12/06/12 22:10 in reply to S Jones.
Why Can't we show some solidarity for once.??.
Without necessarily going on strike we can show Boots and the other bulleys that we Pharmacists and staff alike have had enough.They can't sack us all and if they decide to take action against us it will only highlight their unreasonable demands on their staff. We need to develop a system to assist any unfairly treated objectors to these bulleys.
DEMAND DECENT STANDARDS, REPRESENTATION AND A DECENT MINIMUM WAGE
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Chris Locum, Locum pharmacist
Posted on 13/06/12 08:56 in reply to Clive Hodgson.
Yes I am sad to agree with you. It is not the last of this despicable kind of action. The pharmacist was at the heart of the community when I started out.

Don't kid yourself about community pharmacy being rewarding in the years ahead.

Now you are being slowly and inexorably reduced to drone status. If you don't comply they will find someone else.
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Chris Locum, Locum pharmacist
Posted on 13/06/12 09:03 in reply to Mark McDaniel.
Be proud of the fact she had the guts to do something about it despite the unethical actions and tactics.

Many would do nothing.

Once pharmacists lost ownership rights over the years, the inevitable bad treatment by PLC and other corporate entities was only a matter of time.
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sara cundle, Superintendent
Posted on 13/06/12 12:10 in reply to Tim Benson.
Agree entirely--locum rates will bottom out--but remember this situation has been aggrivated by the excess number of pharmacists currently being produced by too many schools of pharmacy.
Until we have an equilibrium in the workplace--a lot of multiples will continue to act in this way--their attitude is there is a plentiful supply out there for us to choose.
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sara cundle, Superintendent
Posted on 13/06/12 12:11 in reply to sara cundle.
This reply was made by paul samuels--locum pharmacist (not by Sara Cundell)
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Gordon Mackenzie, Locum pharmacist
Posted on 13/06/12 12:51 in reply to sara cundle.
As suggested by many pharmacists on the Locum Voice website it is maybe time to allow free entry to any pharmacist wanting to start up anywhere. Perhaps the Government should actively discriminate in favour of the small independent with up to a dozen pharmacies being allowed to open up where they want. Time to get the profession back into the hands of pharmacists.
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Sue Per, Locum pharmacist
Posted on 13/06/12 18:27 in reply to Gordon Mackenzie.
I totally agree with Gordon, and would further add that,It is time to abolish the current contract, and reintoduce the old "cost plus" contract which dis-incentivised dispensing "sweat shops", and allowed pharmacists to deliver their services professionally with pride and dignity for a fair reward,. Such contract would not only protect low volume dispensing pharmacies, freeing up time for other services, but would also bring opportunities for other enterprising pharmacists who wish to work for themselves, to open new pharmacies in the many empty units on our high streets. They may perhaps venture into other non conventional innovative health related professional services.
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Pharmacist For Fairness, Community pharmacist
Posted on 13/06/12 21:43 in reply to Gerry Diamond.
1.Decent ?If Cpd opportunities can be quoted as a marker for a good employer your expectations are rather lower than the rest of us.
2.Boots are a very professional organisation-- so you say. We don't even know even know where their taxes are paid. How about paying them in the UK where we encourage business and competition.
3.opportunity for promotion is excellent... only because everyone is fed up and wants to leave. Regarding "the Local Boots" , I am appalled by the way young impressionable staff are made all sorts of promises and 'Had carrots dangled ' and basically used as cheap labour.
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Gerry Diamond, Other pharmacist
Posted on 14/06/12 11:38 in reply to Pharmacist For Fairness.
Decent and fair is an accurate description of how the majority of Boots pharmacists are treated in terms of ongoing training, annual CPD conference and opportunity to do a Community Pharmacy/ Clinical Diploma.

Very professional in terms of clinical governance in their pharmacies in terms of how they operate dispensing business, developing and offering new services and being person centred in their pharmaceutical care.

Opportunities for those who want a mangement career from the healthcare assistant through to pharmacists. They are quite meritocratic as an employer. As before they offer competitive salaries, employee benefits and bonuses and are a success story on the UK High Street.
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Mark McDaniel, Non healthcare professional
Posted on 14/06/12 16:12 in reply to Gerry Diamond.
All Funded by staff who are being forced to accept a 25% cut in pay Gerry. I see you have chosen not to answer my question when i asked if you were one of those who were having your contract terminated and then offered a new one , which meant you would lose 25% of your take home pay. I think that says it all....

Its fine to sit on the fence and take the moral stance if you are not the one that is affected by these changes. If you really feel that strong about this, why dont you write a letter to your boss advising that you want to take a 25% cut in pay to fund all these great things that you are talking about on here.
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