Hostile engagement

A 16-year-old girl came in with her mother with a hand written prescription today for pain killers. She said that they both could not read and to show them where to sign, which I did.

The daughter handed me her prescription from the A&E department of a hospital for "diclofenac 75mg three times a day" and "tramadol 200mg twice a day"; neither had a quantity specified. The diclofenac also did not state whether it was modified release, which you would normally expect for that strength.

Knowing that it was above the licenced 150mg max daily dosage, I questioned the prescription dose but the girl immediately became hostile. I mentioned that due to the dose being as high as it was, I would need to check it with the prescriber for confirmation. The girl started to create a scene shouting that I was wrongfully withholding her medication when she was in great pain (which she showed absolutely no signs of).

Her mother did not seem to understand nor care that I was looking out for her daughter's safety either and went and sat in the car. We tried calling the hospital A&E department and were told that a doctor would call back shortly. I again tried to explain the situation to the girl who remained in the pharmacy but she didn't seem to care for what I was saying.

Since the pharmacy was a little busy with waiting patients, I did not like the situation, as her loud accusations of "you're being difficult", "you are not listening to what the doctor has asked" etc may reflect badly on me, despite my good intentions.

After 10 minutes of waiting for a doctor to call back, she began to make more of a scene. It came to a point where I wished I wasn't a pharmacist so that I could have just told her to get lost.

She said that due to waiting so long she would take the prescription elsewhere so I gratefully tried to hand it back to her, but upon trying to give it back she changed her mind and claimed that she would wait in the pharmacy for however long it took until I gave her what was on the prescription.

I had little faith that someone from the A&E department would actually call me back so it put me in a predicament. Out of curiosity can we even return a script to somebody in such an instance creating a scene in the pharmacy, when they're not physically affecting things and ask them to go elsewhere?

Thankfully the patients that remained in the pharmacy were regulars and could see I was trying my best to help but was getting nowhere. Had they been new patients, I may have been under further pressure to issue what was on the prescription as demanded by the patient.

Thankfully a senior doctor in the A&E department did call back shortly after. He confirmed that the patient had attended the hospital A&E department the previous day but had no record of that dose being prescribed. He asked me to reduce the doses on both, only supply seven days worth and asked me to fax the prescription back to him. 

It would have been far too easy to have given in and dispensed what was on the prescription in a situation like this where the patient refuses to leave while causing upset amongst all other patients waiting, but for their sake and your own, definitely check any scripts that you have any doubt about. I know I'll be even more vigilant from now, especially with any handwritten prescriptions.

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Aisha Adnan, Community pharmacist
Posted on 26 August 2011.
keeping calm and trying to help was best you could have done in this situation. in my opinion, role of pharmacists is still a bit vivid in peoples mind. they understand what doctor can do but they dont sometimes understand why a pharmacist is doing something..
i think, pharmacists need recognition
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Jon Flitcroft, Community pharmacist
Posted on 27/08/11 06:23 in reply to Aisha Adnan.
Why do you not have to be a pharmacist to tell someone to get lost? If someone is behaving like that when all you are doing is looking out for their well being you have every right to tell them to get lost?
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Robin Conibere, Community pharmacist
Posted on 27 August 2011.
This is an issue you will have to get used to Ravi, while the majority of patients will sit and wait patiently for their prescriptions and be grateful if you have made an intervention with a doctors input in the interest of their safety, there will always be a few who a) expect it to take 30 seconds to dispense a 5 item prescription b) just expect you to count pills and give it to them and c) not appreciate what you actual do, and usual this is down to plain ignorance among the general population about what pharmacists actually do! Most PCTs have an abusive behaviour policy which I'm sure would be useful to display on your premises and point to when you get patients like this!
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Gillian Cameron, Superintendent
Posted on 29 August 2011.
I think you coped well with this situation but I would have made it clear that this type of behaviour is unacceptable particluarly when you are looking after the patient's best interest.I totally agree with displaying an abusive behaviour policy - you are at your place of work and should not have to tolerate veral abuse - no one should. I have been in this situation several times and these type of incidents leave you feeling disheartened and drained. Most pharmacists go that extra mile and will do all they can to help people and ensure they are taking medicines appropriately and safely. I do believe that the vast majority of patients really appreciate this, however when it becomes apparent that depite your best intentions the patient is being abusive it is time to ask them to either behave or leave.
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ali a, Community pharmacist
Posted on 29 August 2011.
Hi, I have been in a similar situation. I have written my personal protocol to follow in these situation. I think the best thing to do, is to make it clear you are not happy dispensing the prescription as it stands and that you'd need to enquire it with the prescriber, and inform patient that the process may take upto 1 hour, and if she isnt happy then offer her to go to another chemist (most patient are happy to wait). Patients wait hours for the doctor's appointments, it shouldnt be any different with us. If there's a query, then they just have to wait. Also, in all practise leaflet it does clearly state we are not obliged to serve customers that become abusive and rude. I see this as a right, and I exercise my right when I think I'm being abused. During my 4 years of practise, i've only refused 2 customers.
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R Jain, Community pharmacist
Posted on 29 August 2011.
Nice write up about how we [pharmacists] are perceived by the public.

I've had my humorous incidents of abuse including a glass bottle being thrown back at me (disgruntled supervised methadone client) and general hard stare-downs and comments about my dispensing speed to which I cheekily retort that it is not a pick'n'mix in the dispensary. I display the NHS staff abuse poster and have the courage to use it when needed. Doctors, dentists, nurses and opticians would not stand for bad behaviour. Why should we? To protect the business? To save face?

The comments above do bring up the prudent question of how the profession needs to remodel and change its marketing to the public and other healthcare professions. This can be done on a local individual level by coming out of hiding from the dispensary and getting out to visit GPs and practice managers. No time, I hear you say? Make it. It will help yourself and the business.

Of course, your regulars know of who you are and what you are professionally capable of. It is the larger majority of the public that need to be aware. I would call upon the RPSGB and PharmacyVoice to help out and I'm sure they are working on something (I think).

Back to your patient in question. Since you had already made the telephone call to A&E - a brave decision knowing that they may not call back – you have had to stick it out with Little Miss Impatient. You kept your cool and your regulars have helped by quietly keeping your back. I would say to save this situation as experience (it becomes wisdom!) and think about how you would formally handle such patients in future.
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Akbar Aslam, Superintendent
Posted on 30/08/11 18:58 in reply to Raj Jain.
Personally, it all depends on how you approach a patient. You could have said a number of things like: I don't have these medicines in stock at the moment but will do in the afternoon-let me call you when they come in.

This would give you the time to sort the problem out or give her the choice of going elsewhere.
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Anjalee Gokool, Community pharmacist
Posted on 21/11/11 14:58 in reply to Aisha Adnan.
I totally agree with you. People just think ''its only applying a label on a box', they are unaware of our job role.
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