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How pharmacy can overcome unconscious racial bias

In the first of two follow-up podcasts since C+D’s anti-racism webinar, we spoke to Alima Batchelor and Mohammad Hussain to address further questions from the audience

Following on from C+D’s webinar on how to overcome racism in the pharmacy, we spoke to our panel members to address some of the questions from the audience that we were unable to get to during the session.

C+D’s clinical editor Naimah Callachand first spoke to Alima Batchelor, head of policy for the Pharmacists’ Defence Association (PDA). Ms Batchelor said that the PDA is exploring how to positively disseminate the results from its own racism survey, which resulted in some shocking results, in a way to “dispel some of the thoughts that unpin the statements that they got” from their members - including some racist remarks.

Mohammad Hussian, senior clinical lead for NHS Digital, reiterated that more work must be done to overcome unconscious racial bias. He said that there has been some research that poor unconscious bias training “is as likely to reinforce a bias as it is to address [one]”.

He discussed how organisations can improve their training on unconscious bias, such as using group training with an informed speaker and reiterated the importance of continued and meaningful training.

Both panellists were giving their own views for this podcast.

You can listen to the podcast below. Alternatively, subscribe to C+D's podcasts on iTunes or by searching “Chemist+Druggist podcast” on your preferred Android podcast app.

Please note, the sound quality of this podcast may be affected as it has been recorded remotely during the COVID-19 outbreak.

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